I'm from New York and so now we are going to get taxed to hell to pay for City pensions for people are most of us hate. They get a GED get a city job through a Union then work a job for 20 years, retire at 40-45 years then get 3/4s or 1/2 pay for YEARS after they retire. Cops - scumbags Train Clerks - useless and every year machines take over more and more of their duties (in many areas they get paid to sit there and do nothing) Bus drivers - Miserable a**holes. DMV workers - Miserable nothings Unemployment Workers - I was unemployed in 2004 years and quit on them . I started using the online service. Ironically the only ones who make a decent effort are the public assistance workers So we have to get taxed to pay for BILLIONS in pensions while these people provide a transportation system that gets worse with every day that passes , not only that but their attitudes get worse and worse. What makes their 20 years of sh*t service deserving of that much money after they retire young but not my service? If I provide lousy services at my job I'd get fired. The democrats are really starting to let me down man, real bad, and I'm a lifelong liberal. Yutsnark - I'm not suggesting paying them less. I just have a problem with the extremely high tax funded pensions. These people retire making 45k a year at 42 years old then get 25k a year for the rest of their lives while going into private industry or flat sitting on their ass until they die 30 years later. They should have the pension reduced if they continue to work after they 'retire' Yutsnark - In my industry our pensions aren't paid with taxes. Weasel McWeasel - Please don't leave bullsh*t responses. Cops now need two years of college education but they are basically bullies or high priced security guards. And as for tokens -- we haven't used them in over 10 years. You ever heard of a metrocard? Also, in this economy a vile of crack does not cost the price of two train rides