Greyhound Charter Buses Knowledge Base
What's it like being on a greyhound bus for the first time? Im going to Oklahoma, to go see my bf (hes in the army and is stationed there, it's not long distance over the internet). And he bought me a greyhound ticket, and i've never been on one by my self... Or at all, im used to a charter bus, with friends that i know... How do you know what bus to get on, when u transfer in between stops that they do??? Do they tell you?
I am traveling to pigeon forge, tennessee mid July 2007 however I would like to travel on a charter bus? I will be staying in the cabins in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee around Mid-July 2007 for 4 days. I would like to find a charter bus that is in Illinois to ride to Tennessee and that bus would also bring me back to Illinois. I tried greyhound bus and they only go to Memphis. I can't find any info on Amtrak for Tennessee. When I was there before looking at the appalacian mountains I remember there was a 2 charter buses there. One was unloading children with their teacher to look at the mountains and one was unloading senior citizens to look at the mountains. Both buses loaded them back on the bus. I'm looking for a bus that would get me to the cabins and then back home and maybe some touring in between. Does anybody have any names of charter buses in Illinois or maybe what company they have traveled with that will get me to Tennessee and back? Thanks in advance guys!
should our school use greyhound buses instead of school buses for out trip to San Antonio.Read. please....? For our 8th grade trip to Fiesta Texas San Antonio we live about 250 miles south of it in south texas.and I heard but dont know if its true that were taking greyhound(or some other big passenger bus)to fiesta texas.Should the school do this.I mean its better than taking the school buses.the bus drivers arnt even expiriences,i dont wanna die.....Its smarter to charter or whatever buses intstead of taking school buses that might brake down.Our school isint the richest school but I mean I dont think they would take us 250 miles upstate on a bus that might break down.....Opinions??
Luggage Limit On A Charter Bus? IE, GreyHound? Im only taking one suitcase, but my mom said that it can only weigh 50 LBS. Do you know if this is true, or if there is any weight limits at all? Thanks! But the suitcase is going on the bus, so i wont be putting anything over my head. Or are you just saying that if i cant lift it over my head that its too heavy? This sucks...
Are there any buses or other public transportation ways to get from Houston, TX to College Station, TX? I'm flying into Houston and need to get to Texas A&M in College Station. It costs twice as much to take a charter plane from Houston to Texas A&M, so I'd rather skip the connector flight and take a bus or something similar (not a cab) to save some money. Does anyone know anything about a possible Greyhound bus route or shuttle service between the two cities? And if you have a link with schedules that would be really helpful. Thanks!
Is there a bus company that goes from Sacramento to Las Vegas? NOT GREYHOUND? I have got to get to Las Vegas, my brother in law is sick, and I need to help my sister. I have taken Amtrak there, but on the way back it goes through Utah. I took Greyhound back, and it was a disaster! I hate to fly, and I don't want to have to take Greyhound again on the way back, any suggestions? Maybe a bus service company that does individual tours from Sacramento to Las Vegas, instead of just a charter bus service?
do all charter buses have bathrooms? do all of em have one cuz im going on a 3-4 hour trip to LA in about 3 weeks on a greyhound i think and was just wondering if they have bathrooms im not even sure if its a greyhound... im freakin out! HELP! lol thank you
British columbia to alberta transportation? I am looking to get from the salmon arm area give or take 100km or so to edmonton but all i can find for transportation is greyhound buses. Is there anything else that offers transportation to there? i am preferably looking for a charter bus line (besides greyhound), or train.
How long will it take to Greyhound from S Carolina, to Iowa? Tomorrow i'm traveling from Ft Jackson, South Carolina, to Cedar Falls, Iowa, by means of charter bus. On Mapquest, that's 17 hours by car, about 1000 miles. Any idea how long i could expect it to take on a bus, if i left friday at noon? I'm guessing i'd arrive late sunday. How often does the bus make stops for food or other things? What should i expect or come prepared with? I've already got a Nintendo DS and an MP3 player to pass some time until their charge dies. Thanks!
Whats a good Charter Bus line to get to Kelowna, BC? I'm going over to Kelowna to visit a friend at UBC Okanagan, and i need to get there via Bus! I checked Greyhound. but their prices are a little high. so! If you could answer these questions, that would be fantastic :) - 1) what's another bus line that's a tad cheaper that will go to Kelowna? 2)Where is the Vancouver charter bus departure stop, place? That s where Im coming from but i have no idea where to go catch the bus. 3) What stop in Kelowna is the nearest to UBC Okanagan? Thankyou!
I am trying to find a charter-type bus trip to Reno...? I don't really want Greyhound; I am looking for something like a Reno party bus from San Jose, CA, A few years ago, I remember some retired ladies talking about it, and I'd like to send my Aunt and Mom to Reno as a gift. I've looked online and can't find ANYTHING. Does anyone have any ideas? Should I contact the casinos? Thanks
bus trip to Laughlin NV from SO CAL???? does anyone know where i can check to see if there are bus trips to laughlin nevada??? and from where and when?? any websites?? or bus companies?? not greyhound but those charter buses that take you back,,,
Taxi cab questions, please help, I've never been in a cab before.? I have several questions, that i would like help with. Is there any way to predetermine the cost of going 60miles in a taxi? Also, does it cost more when you call to have a cab to pick you up at a certain location instead of just finding one in town? Thanks for all your help. Oh, and if anyone knows, is it possible for a 16 year old to purchase a charter bus ticket such as Greyhound, or must you be 18?
i need to find a bus service? I need a bus service to take my home from Gainesville, FL to Melbourne, FL. What are some good charter buses with moderately low prices? (Greyhound was too expensive)
Was it right for the jet known as Air Force One to be used to fly George W Bush back to exile in Texas? Should have got a Greyhound bus instead, or I'm sure he is rich enough to fly down First class or even charter a plane? Should he pay the costs of the flight? BTW I know it is not called Air Force One when the President is not on board but everyone still knows it as that. When British Prime Ministers are kicked out of office, they have a few hours to pack their stuff and clear out, they get a car back to their own home and then left to it. No fuss. LOL, unusual for Bush to get this much support. BTW, how did Chency get home?
Greyhound bus stop in Townsville? We are booking a ticket from Townsville to Charters Towers (QLD) on the 20th of march, and i was just wondering if anyone knows where the bus stop where you get picked up from is in Townsville?
pittsburgh, pa to Cedar Point by bus? hello. Can anyone recommed the best possible way to cedar point amusment park in Sandusky, OH from Pittsburgh, PA by bus? Its not possible through greyhound and i also chcked the megabus, that destination is not available. I was wondering if there were any charter buses that do day trips. Thanks for any and all help. (travel day would be saturday)
HELP! Is This Case a Bonifide Trade Secret or DMCA Violation? Hello. I am a 48-year-old Ohio male with clinical depression, chronic fatigue syndrome and severe anti-social disorder. Deemed “disabled” by three doctors but unable to secure Social Security Disability benefits, I dabbled with the idea of becoming an online retailer of replacement parts for household-use breadmakers. Three long years of carefully-documented research ensude, research none before me had ever taken the time to gather. Subsequetly, I opened an online breadmaker parts store, single-handedly reviving a dying industry with eighteen months by supplying decade-old replacement parts formerly unavailable for decades. It was year-five that I decided to expand my horizons so on or about June 10, 2010 I emailed a business merger proposal to eBay members Danny Back and wife Rana Smith-Back (aka heavenlightly aka BreadMachinePartsFinder.com aka BreadMachineFinder.com). My message contained, among other details, an admission of my physical and emotional limitations. Regardless, the Backs verbally accepted my proposal and insisted that I relocate to their hometown of Huntsville, Alabama as soon as possible. On or about July 12, 2010 I sold what little belongings I had and chartered a Greyhound bus to Hunstville. Once I met with the Backs at a local restaurant to revisit our goals, with the mutual anticipation of acting on them the very next day. The next day came, and nothing. The next week came and still we had accomplished nothing. It seemed Danny needed to share his life story, a long dull tale that included rants of government conspiracies and the hypothalamus being the source of all illness. ??? Emotionally exhausted from the seemingly endless chatter and stalling, I finally snapped. Snapped? That’s putting it mildly. Better said: I had an emotional episode of stupenous proportions. Nervous breakdown. Wigged out. Flipped. Penniless and wandering about the city at night, the only sane act I could conjure up was to call a relative to purchase me a bus ticket back to Ohio. Within days of my return I emailed the Backs to inform them that the deal was off, insisting they refrain from using any of the research that I had shared with them during my short stay. Within weeks I could see from visits to their internet site that they were not willing to comply with my wishes. I then emailed a legal document demanding that they cease and desist from the same. In both counts they confirmed having received my emails, arguing they had every right to continue using my research for personal gain. Looking back on this debacle I am left only to conclude the entire ordeal an evil plan to steal my trade secrets. If anyone would like to offer his or her’s advice on how I should pursue this matter, I’m listening. In fact, leave any comment you like for I’d really like to know your opinion regarding this matter. And feel free to call my voicemail at 419-581-5977. Thank you. Troy
Wedding Guest Transportation Question? Ok so me and my fiance will be getting married next summer (not for a year and a half or so) but im wanting to get all this planned. The major problem is this: My boy and his family are from Louisiana. Me and my family and friends are from Illinois. We already decided to marry in Louisiana because his family is much larger than mine is. I have like 30 people that will need to get transported from Illinois to Louisana and we can't afford to rent an 11 thousand dollar charter bus. Amtrak and Greyhound are like 600 dollars round fare. My question is this: Would it be wrong for me to arrange transportation for my family and bridal party and then all my family friends have to arrange their own? I'm not sure if that would be tacky for me to do or not?
National Bus Service? My friend is looking to come up to Binghamton, NY from Biloxi, MS. I need a national charter bus service for just one person looking to book a ticket. All I keep getting is rental rates to book an entire bus. Does any one know of any bus service other than Greyhound? Thanks oh okay, so how do I book it so that he'll stop off?
Buses from Memphis TN to Dyersburg TN? As the title suggests i'm looking to get a coach/bus from Memphis TN to Dyersburg TN but greyhound don't have any services going that way, does anyone know of any other way to get there (no trains either) or know of any other coach companies similar to greyhound who run to Dyersburg, i've googled coach companies and it only comes back with chartered services. Thanks.
How can I get a NYC bus tour? My friends have taken tours from West Virginia to NYC round trip for like $70. It's like a charter bus, and it's like if you aren't there when the bus is ready to leave, you will have to buy an individual bus ticket. It's not like greyhound or anything. Does anyone know of a website where I can check this sort of thing out? P.S. I don't want a bus tour once I get in NYC. Just a bus to take me to the hotel, and pick me up in a few days and take me hundreds of miles home. Bolt bus doesn't depart from where I am. :( Bolt bus doesn't depart from where I am. :(
Does a website exist which shows all available forms of travel, and the ability to book said means of travel? Without calling a travel agent, I'm in need of a website similar to the big ones for air travel, like expedia/priceline/orbitz/etc, but which searches among various methods of travel. For instance, to travel between major cities or small cities, I'd like to find out, from one website, if I can travel by charter bus, rail train, maglev train, or air. My goal is to fly cheaply to a major city, then find alternative methods of travel to go to nearby towns (and to other nearby towns from the small ones I already traveled to) which may be 3-5 hours away by driving. The best I have come up with is to use google search terms for two small towns/cities and either train or bus, with no consistent success for something along the lines of "travel between ___ and ___ for $xx.xx with charter bus company A, train company D, or airline company A". Searching at greyhound.com or amtrak.com is helpful, but only if I do individual searches for every pair of cities to find out if they commute or not, and then going to every single OTHER bus company to see if they provide service among the 30 different pairs. If there exists a website, like expedia.com, where I can input travel destinations between syracuse and williamsport, or waco and abilene and be shown all available methods of travel rather than just airlines (the many different charter bus companies, all airlines, trains/maglev, and others I may not be aware of) and choose just as I would with expedia (which is airline only), I would love to know the name of the website.
Bus from Miami to Houston? So for 3 days I was on the Greyhound from Miami to Houston and it was a nightmare. Almost everyone of the bus was either high or drunk, I did not feel safe at all. I have been looking for other buses but I can't find any. I don't need a charter or tour bus since I will be the only one traveling. Any help? Thank you soooo much!
30 years 3 million miles-but not for 6 years--can't get a job with out going to school to learn how to drive--? Why does insurance companies and driving school be allowed to 30 year drivers to be able to get a driving job??I have not had any chargeable accidents or moving violations--I have been driving a van/bus for the last 3 years part time--I have a CDL Class A-with T and P endorsments--I have driven since 1961--never have I been turned down--drove Greyhound 4 years-Charter 2 years school bus 28 years--but I need to go to school to get a semi driving job--??I drove my first semi at age 12-- drove foe Adams Trasit Mix--semi--Georgia Pacfic--Tran-Western Express--Edson Express-in Colorado--ProDriver Temp service Ashton Trasport--First Choice--Blesacheck all in Phoenix thru 10 states and Mexico 3 million miles--yet since I have not driven a Semi since 2005 --I got to go to School???should have not taken an early retirement--but since the cost of living has gone out of site--I need a Job--I have worked part time but need full time work--Thanks Ralph a. Wood "Woody" 801-645-0801
bus Miami to Houston? So for 3 days I was on the Greyhound from Miami to Houston and it was a nightmare. Almost everyone of the bus was either high or drunk, I did not feel safe at all. I have been looking for other buses but I can't find any. I don't need a charter or tour bus since I will be the only one traveling. Any help? Thank you soooo much! Of course airplanes are much safer and it would be my #1 choice if I had the money but as a college student, every little bit of money that I can save counts. So I would rather ride the bus. Airplanes are out of the question. Thank you though! Of course airplanes are much safer and it would be my #1 choice if I had the money but as a college student, every little bit of money that I can save counts. So I would rather ride the bus. Airplanes are out of the question. Thank you though! Amtrak takes me to Washington D.C. then Chicago, then finally Houston. It takes too long. I guess i'll have to take the Greyhound again. Thank you all though!
midwest bus lines??? Are there any bus lines, other than Greyhound, that run through Indy and Detroit? I'm planning a trip and bus is the cheapest way. I just need to find the different bus lines to compare prices. All I come up with in Yahoo search is charter lines, which doesn't help me at all because they don't have regular routes. Any help is much appreciated.
British columbia to alberta transportation? I am looking to get from the salmon arm area give or take 100km or so to edmonton but all i can find for transportation is greyhound buses. Is there anything else that offers transportation to there? i am preferably looking for a charter bus line (besides greyhound), or train.
I recently got tickets for a charter bus how do i know what bus to transfer to when we stop to transfer? Here is my schedule and im going by greyhound this is to new york http://flic.kr/p/aU7JWH and this is back home http://flic.kr/p/aU7JW8 i blocked off where im from and where im going for saftey reasons FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DONT BELIEVE ME ABOUT THIS NOT BEING A CHARTER BUS MAYBE THIS WILL PROVE THEM WRONG http://www.flickr.com/photos/70094003@N07/6518652827/ Link above dont work use this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/70094003@N07/6518726725/
British Columbia to Alberta transportation? I am looking to get from the salmon arm area give or take 100km or so to edmonton but all i can find for transportation is greyhound buses. Is there anything else that offers transportation to there? i am preferably looking for a charter bus line (besides greyhound), or train.
Is there any truth in this article about illegal workers here in the USA? The long road home Deported illegal workers face the long arm of the law http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2008/03/30/news/top_story/133809.txt Most of the 28 shackled, brown-skinned men deported March 13 by federal agents from the Twin Falls airport still saw giving up as out of the question. They teased fellow travelers with unusual last names: Salado - risqué - and Lechuga - lettuce. They stayed jovial at the end of a video informing them of their rights. On the grimmest of days, they tried to raise each other's spirits. There were other reasons to eagerly board the flight. Some wanted to escape the blustery chill. For others, the unmarked MD-83 jet, with U.S. Marshals and government contractors for flight attendants, offered a first-ever flight. In this crowd of strangers, a sense of comradery took hold, making the trip more endurable. Crossing a legal border Antonio Carrillo could see only two options: give up and go home or fight deportation. The majority of the deportees - 15 in all - took seats toward the back of of the 172-seat jet. They remained apart from those who were not fighting deportation. At the plane's final stop, in Phoenix, the 15 involuntary deportees would go before a judge to make one last plea to stay in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say all will certainly lose. "Most of them, they don't have a case," said Steven Branch, ICE's Salt Lake City-based director of detention and removal. His office has handles an average of 3,750 removals per year from Utah, Nevada, Idaho and Montana. Those who fight deportation and lose are sent home under a removal order. They face a felony charge if they return to the U.S. Those who chose not to fight are simply returned to Mexico. It they sneak back across the border, they face no criminal charge. Some make the round-trip more than once. "I'd rather obtain a removal order to stop the revolving door," Branch said. "Sometimes a felony return sinks in and it scares the heck out of them." The deportees' hopeful pursuit for appeals may also describe their obedient - almost passive - behavior as they are processed. Since the summer of 1998, authorities have corralled Montana and Idaho deportees in Twin Falls for shipment to their native country without ever having a serious incident. Not once have the armed ICE officers and Marshals needed to pull a trigger. The closest thing anyone recalls to an escape is a man who once tried to run, only to bounce off a locked detention cell door in Salt Lake City. International stockade Montana and Idaho mainly by local law enforcement from crimes ranging from a speeding ticket to murder. A smaller group are arrested by immigration agents. Arrests made directly by ICE or U.S. Border Patrol agents can often start with an operation targeting criminal aliens but lead to arrests of non-criminal immigrants caught in the cross-fire. Since the inception of ICE in March 2003, immigration agents have arrested and detained 3,355 immigrants in six south-central Idaho counties, according to ICE records obtained by a public information request. "It's a tough job," Branch said. "We knock on doors at 6 o'clock in the morning. The whole family is there. 'Come outside so we can arrest you away from your family.' People don't realize we don't make the laws up. We enforce the laws. Congress has passed the laws." In exceptional cases, ICEagents allow families to fly home together voluntarily on commerical flights. When the jails across Idaho and Montana fill up, usually once or twice a week. Vans haul the men to the TwinFalls County jail for the night. The next morning after breakfast at the jail, ICE agents transfer them to a federal processing office on Addison Avenue East, where they are deposited into a cubic, white-walled holding cell with a single toilet that rests an inch out of view of a surveillance camera. The group grows to only 28 today but agents have seen it swell to as many as 75 men. Women are always kept separate. After the deportees watch a 40-minute movie about their rights, they are brought one-by-one out of the room by the much smaller number of agents. Their morning breath festers in the close quarters. They are cuffed and shackled to belly chains, inspected, then returned to the cell until the bus in the back parking lot is ready to go. Once the processing is complete, they load into a white bus parked in a gated area behind the building. With the exception of screens on the windows that prevents the public from looking in, the 47-seat bus looks like a Greyhound bus. But on the inside, the front is split from the main cabin by a metal divider. The bus is wired - with monitors showing officers activity in the back and with a scrambled federal radio channel that connects the officers on board to the several vans caravaning to the airport. The vehicles wait on the tarmac for an unmarked charter jet containing only U.S. Marshals and private contractors, who will fly them to Salt Lake City to pick up a second batch of immigrants. Then to scoop up more at another regional city, and on until El Paso, Texas, and finally Phoenix, Ariz. But these flights won't go to their native countries - whether Mexico or elsewhere. Those flights, which will happen later, entail handing the immigrants off to their respective governments. Preparing a defense During this process, the men, some who cannot read, usually with meager educations, will not be afforded a lawyer. They lack awareness of immigration law, or U.S. laws altogether for that matter, which leaves them to quietly invent the odds of winning their case, and an argument for swaying a judge. What's Antonio Carrillo's case? At the ICE office on Addison Avenue East, his mind is not on the departure two hours away, or even his home in Chihuahua Parral, Mexico. It's on his girlfriend in Bozeman, Mont., who is entering her third trimester of pregnancy, and their impending wedding. He has told her not to worry: he has no legal help, but he'll take care of it. After all, he and eight of the other men today have committed no crime, beyond a traffic ticket. "She knows I'm in jail," Carrillo said, looking prim in a black pinstripe buttoned shirt. "She doesn't know what's going to happen. She doesn't know (if I lose) I can never come back." He threw his hands into the air, "Maybe I'll win." It's worse for Carrillo, 19, if he loses the hearing. It will mean he cannot simply marry his fiancee and move back because that would trigger a felony. If he voluntarily left, it would give him a blank slate to the American government. He seems unclear on this point. Still at the processing office, the bus is ready to take the men to the airport. Carrillo returns to the holding cell, where men are called out by agents wearing blue latex gloves to be searched and cuffed. Carrillo, who was happy being photographed before the cuffs went on, now declines to have his picture taken. ICE gives the men street clothes so they don't have to wear the jail garb of the county where they were arrested. It's important to him that he not be viewed as a criminal. Roots of an arrest It's also important for Luis Delacruz, of central Peru. As a convicted criminal, he has no chance of winning his appeal. But he has a plan:Make a case against racism. After joining his brother and cousins in Hailey five years ago, Delacruz, 32, had a roofing job. He bought a car and hoped to start saving money - money that might justify leaving his wife back home in Peru. But then Delacruz had too much to drink and tried to buy more. He showed his Peruvian ID to a mini-mart clerk, who reported him. Soon afterward, a Blaine County deputy arrested him for driving under the influence. To Delacruz, the cause of his deportation isn't his status as an illegal immigrant or drinking and driving. It's racism. "Why do they imagine these things about us?" he said with a sigh. "I'm leaving with what I came with. I'm not thinking about coming back. You're too far from the people you love." That's the sentiment of the case he'll make, which carries no legal weight, at the civil proceeding. He recalls leaving his wife at the airport in Peru five years ago, promising her he'd return with more money than he left with. She bawled, and even reconsidered letting him go. He's protesting his deportation, he said, because he still has debts here and feels ashamed that he won't be able to pay it back. If he wins his appeal, he says, he'll be back to pay up. Chances of that happening are slim. It's unclear what happens to the immigrants once they reach their seats inside the airplane. The charter plane, unlike the bus, looks on the inside like a typical airliner. As the Marshals finish packing plastic garbage bags containing their livelihoods - a book, an extra pair of clothes, a cowboy hat, court papers - into the undercarriage, something shuts off. The men lose their smiles. The laughter, both contrived for each other and authentic, halts. The men, all with closely cropped black hair, stare forward at the seat ahead. As Marshals retract the stairwell, the cabin permeates with only the calm hum of the engines.
Is there any truth in this article about illegal workers here in the USA? The long road home Deported illegal workers face the long arm of the law http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2008/03/30/news/top_story/133809.txt Most of the 28 shackled, brown-skinned men deported March 13 by federal agents from the Twin Falls airport still saw giving up as out of the question. They teased fellow travelers with unusual last names: Salado - risqué - and Lechuga - lettuce. They stayed jovial at the end of a video informing them of their rights. On the grimmest of days, they tried to raise each other's spirits. There were other reasons to eagerly board the flight. Some wanted to escape the blustery chill. For others, the unmarked MD-83 jet, with U.S. Marshals and government contractors for flight attendants, offered a first-ever flight. In this crowd of strangers, a sense of comradery took hold, making the trip more endurable. Crossing a legal border Antonio Carrillo could see only two options: give up and go home or fight deportation. The majority of the deportees - 15 in all - took seats toward the back of of the 172-seat jet. They remained apart from those who were not fighting deportation. At the plane's final stop, in Phoenix, the 15 involuntary deportees would go before a judge to make one last plea to stay in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say all will certainly lose. "Most of them, they don't have a case," said Steven Branch, ICE's Salt Lake City-based director of detention and removal. His office has handles an average of 3,750 removals per year from Utah, Nevada, Idaho and Montana. Those who fight deportation and lose are sent home under a removal order. They face a felony charge if they return to the U.S. Those who chose not to fight are simply returned to Mexico. It they sneak back across the border, they face no criminal charge. Some make the round-trip more than once. "I'd rather obtain a removal order to stop the revolving door," Branch said. "Sometimes a felony return sinks in and it scares the heck out of them." The deportees' hopeful pursuit for appeals may also describe their obedient - almost passive - behavior as they are processed. Since the summer of 1998, authorities have corralled Montana and Idaho deportees in Twin Falls for shipment to their native country without ever having a serious incident. Not once have the armed ICE officers and Marshals needed to pull a trigger. The closest thing anyone recalls to an escape is a man who once tried to run, only to bounce off a locked detention cell door in Salt Lake City. International stockade Montana and Idaho mainly by local law enforcement from crimes ranging from a speeding ticket to murder. A smaller group are arrested by immigration agents. Arrests made directly by ICE or U.S. Border Patrol agents can often start with an operation targeting criminal aliens but lead to arrests of non-criminal immigrants caught in the cross-fire. Since the inception of ICE in March 2003, immigration agents have arrested and detained 3,355 immigrants in six south-central Idaho counties, according to ICE records obtained by a public information request. "It's a tough job," Branch said. "We knock on doors at 6 o'clock in the morning. The whole family is there. 'Come outside so we can arrest you away from your family.' People don't realize we don't make the laws up. We enforce the laws. Congress has passed the laws." In exceptional cases, ICEagents allow families to fly home together voluntarily on commerical flights. When the jails across Idaho and Montana fill up, usually once or twice a week. Vans haul the men to the TwinFalls County jail for the night. The next morning after breakfast at the jail, ICE agents transfer them to a federal processing office on Addison Avenue East, where they are deposited into a cubic, white-walled holding cell with a single toilet that rests an inch out of view of a surveillance camera. The group grows to only 28 today but agents have seen it swell to as many as 75 men. Women are always kept separate. After the deportees watch a 40-minute movie about their rights, they are brought one-by-one out of the room by the much smaller number of agents. Their morning breath festers in the close quarters. They are cuffed and shackled to belly chains, inspected, then returned to the cell until the bus in the back parking lot is ready to go. Once the processing is complete, they load into a white bus parked in a gated area behind the building. With the exception of screens on the windows that prevents the public from looking in, the 47-seat bus looks like a Greyhound bus. But on the inside, the front is split from the main cabin by a metal divider. The bus is wired - with monitors showing officers activity in the back and with a scrambled federal radio channel that connects the officers on board to the several vans caravaning to the airport. The vehicles wait on the tarmac for an unmarked charter jet containing only U.S. Marshals and private contractors, who will fly them to Salt Lake City to pick up a second batch of immigrants. Then to scoop up more at another regional city, and on until El Paso, Texas, and finally Phoenix, Ariz. But these flights won't go to their native countries - whether Mexico or elsewhere. Those flights, which will happen later, entail handing the immigrants off to their respective governments. Preparing a defense During this process, the men, some who cannot read, usually with meager educations, will not be afforded a lawyer. They lack awareness of immigration law, or U.S. laws altogether for that matter, which leaves them to quietly invent the odds of winning their case, and an argument for swaying a judge. What's Antonio Carrillo's case? At the ICE office on Addison Avenue East, his mind is not on the departure two hours away, or even his home in Chihuahua Parral, Mexico. It's on his girlfriend in Bozeman, Mont., who is entering her third trimester of pregnancy, and their impending wedding. He has told her not to worry: he has no legal help, but he'll take care of it. After all, he and eight of the other men today have committed no crime, beyond a traffic ticket. "She knows I'm in jail," Carrillo said, looking prim in a black pinstripe buttoned shirt. "She doesn't know what's going to happen. She doesn't know (if I lose) I can never come back." He threw his hands into the air, "Maybe I'll win." It's worse for Carrillo, 19, if he loses the hearing. It will mean he cannot simply marry his fiancee and move back because that would trigger a felony. If he voluntarily left, it would give him a blank slate to the American government. He seems unclear on this point. Still at the processing office, the bus is ready to take the men to the airport. Carrillo returns to the holding cell, where men are called out by agents wearing blue latex gloves to be searched and cuffed. Carrillo, who was happy being photographed before the cuffs went on, now declines to have his picture taken. ICE gives the men street clothes so they don't have to wear the jail garb of the county where they were arrested. It's important to him that he not be viewed as a criminal. Roots of an arrest It's also important for Luis Delacruz, of central Peru. As a convicted criminal, he has no chance of winning his appeal. But he has a plan:Make a case against racism. After joining his brother and cousins in Hailey five years ago, Delacruz, 32, had a roofing job. He bought a car and hoped to start saving money - money that might justify leaving his wife back home in Peru. But then Delacruz had too much to drink and tried to buy more. He showed his Peruvian ID to a mini-mart clerk, who reported him. Soon afterward, a Blaine County deputy arrested him for driving under the influence. To Delacruz, the cause of his deportation isn't his status as an illegal immigrant or drinking and driving. It's racism. "Why do they imagine these things about us?" he said with a sigh. "I'm leaving with what I came with. I'm not thinking about coming back. You're too far from the people you love." That's the sentiment of the case he'll make, which carries no legal weight, at the civil proceeding. He recalls leaving his wife at the airport in Peru five years ago, promising her he'd return with more money than he left with. She bawled, and even reconsidered letting him go. He's protesting his deportation, he said, because he still has debts here and feels ashamed that he won't be able to pay it back. If he wins his appeal, he says, he'll be back to pay up. Chances of that happening are slim. It's unclear what happens to the immigrants once they reach their seats inside the airplane. The charter plane, unlike the bus, looks on the inside like a typical airliner. As the Marshals finish packing plastic garbage bags containing their livelihoods - a book, an extra pair of clothes, a cowboy hat, court papers - into the undercarriage, something shuts off. The men lose their smiles. The laughter, both contrived for each other and authentic, halts. The men, all with closely cropped black hair, stare forward at the seat ahead. As Marshals retract the stairwell, the cabin permeates with only the calm hum of the engines.
Is there any truth in this article about illegal workers here in the USA? The long road home Deported illegal workers face the long arm of the law http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2008/03/30/news/top_story/133809.txt Most of the 28 shackled, brown-skinned men deported March 13 by federal agents from the Twin Falls airport still saw giving up as out of the question. They teased fellow travelers with unusual last names: Salado - risqué - and Lechuga - lettuce. They stayed jovial at the end of a video informing them of their rights. On the grimmest of days, they tried to raise each other's spirits. There were other reasons to eagerly board the flight. Some wanted to escape the blustery chill. For others, the unmarked MD-83 jet, with U.S. Marshals and government contractors for flight attendants, offered a first-ever flight. In this crowd of strangers, a sense of comradery took hold, making the trip more endurable. Crossing a legal border Antonio Carrillo could see only two options: give up and go home or fight deportation. The majority of the deportees - 15 in all - took seats toward the back of of the 172-seat jet. They remained apart from those who were not fighting deportation. At the plane's final stop, in Phoenix, the 15 involuntary deportees would go before a judge to make one last plea to stay in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say all will certainly lose. "Most of them, they don't have a case," said Steven Branch, ICE's Salt Lake City-based director of detention and removal. His office has handles an average of 3,750 removals per year from Utah, Nevada, Idaho and Montana. Those who fight deportation and lose are sent home under a removal order. They face a felony charge if they return to the U.S. Those who chose not to fight are simply returned to Mexico. It they sneak back across the border, they face no criminal charge. Some make the round-trip more than once. "I'd rather obtain a removal order to stop the revolving door," Branch said. "Sometimes a felony return sinks in and it scares the heck out of them." The deportees' hopeful pursuit for appeals may also describe their obedient - almost passive - behavior as they are processed. Since the summer of 1998, authorities have corralled Montana and Idaho deportees in Twin Falls for shipment to their native country without ever having a serious incident. Not once have the armed ICE officers and Marshals needed to pull a trigger. The closest thing anyone recalls to an escape is a man who once tried to run, only to bounce off a locked detention cell door in Salt Lake City. International stockade Montana and Idaho mainly by local law enforcement from crimes ranging from a speeding ticket to murder. A smaller group are arrested by immigration agents. Arrests made directly by ICE or U.S. Border Patrol agents can often start with an operation targeting criminal aliens but lead to arrests of non-criminal immigrants caught in the cross-fire. Since the inception of ICE in March 2003, immigration agents have arrested and detained 3,355 immigrants in six south-central Idaho counties, according to ICE records obtained by a public information request. "It's a tough job," Branch said. "We knock on doors at 6 o'clock in the morning. The whole family is there. 'Come outside so we can arrest you away from your family.' People don't realize we don't make the laws up. We enforce the laws. Congress has passed the laws." In exceptional cases, ICEagents allow families to fly home together voluntarily on commerical flights. When the jails across Idaho and Montana fill up, usually once or twice a week. Vans haul the men to the TwinFalls County jail for the night. The next morning after breakfast at the jail, ICE agents transfer them to a federal processing office on Addison Avenue East, where they are deposited into a cubic, white-walled holding cell with a single toilet that rests an inch out of view of a surveillance camera. The group grows to only 28 today but agents have seen it swell to as many as 75 men. Women are always kept separate. After the deportees watch a 40-minute movie about their rights, they are brought one-by-one out of the room by the much smaller number of agents. Their morning breath festers in the close quarters. They are cuffed and shackled to belly chains, inspected, then returned to the cell until the bus in the back parking lot is ready to go. Once the processing is complete, they load into a white bus parked in a gated area behind the building. With the exception of screens on the windows that prevents the public from looking in, the 47-seat bus looks like a Greyhound bus. But on the inside, the front is split from the main cabin by a metal divider. The bus is wired - with monitors showing officers activity in the back and with a scrambled federal radio channel that connects the officers on board to the several vans caravaning to the airport. The vehicles wait on the tarmac for an unmarked charter jet containing only U.S. Marshals and private contractors, who will fly them to Salt Lake City to pick up a second batch of immigrants. Then to scoop up more at another regional city, and on until El Paso, Texas, and finally Phoenix, Ariz. But these flights won't go to their native countries - whether Mexico or elsewhere. Those flights, which will happen later, entail handing the immigrants off to their respective governments. Preparing a defense During this process, the men, some who cannot read, usually with meager educations, will not be afforded a lawyer. They lack awareness of immigration law, or U.S. laws altogether for that matter, which leaves them to quietly invent the odds of winning their case, and an argument for swaying a judge. What's Antonio Carrillo's case? At the ICE office on Addison Avenue East, his mind is not on the departure two hours away, or even his home in Chihuahua Parral, Mexico. It's on his girlfriend in Bozeman, Mont., who is entering her third trimester of pregnancy, and their impending wedding. He has told her not to worry: he has no legal help, but he'll take care of it. After all, he and eight of the other men today have committed no crime, beyond a traffic ticket. "She knows I'm in jail," Carrillo said, looking prim in a black pinstripe buttoned shirt. "She doesn't know what's going to happen. She doesn't know (if I lose) I can never come back." He threw his hands into the air, "Maybe I'll win." It's worse for Carrillo, 19, if he loses the hearing. It will mean he cannot simply marry his fiancee and move back because that would trigger a felony. If he voluntarily left, it would give him a blank slate to the American government. He seems unclear on this point. Still at the processing office, the bus is ready to take the men to the airport. Carrillo returns to the holding cell, where men are called out by agents wearing blue latex gloves to be searched and cuffed. Carrillo, who was happy being photographed before the cuffs went on, now declines to have his picture taken. ICE gives the men street clothes so they don't have to wear the jail garb of the county where they were arrested. It's important to him that he not be viewed as a criminal. Roots of an arrest It's also important for Luis Delacruz, of central Peru. As a convicted criminal, he has no chance of winning his appeal. But he has a plan:Make a case against racism. After joining his brother and cousins in Hailey five years ago, Delacruz, 32, had a roofing job. He bought a car and hoped to start saving money - money that might justify leaving his wife back home in Peru. But then Delacruz had too much to drink and tried to buy more. He showed his Peruvian ID to a mini-mart clerk, who reported him. Soon afterward, a Blaine County deputy arrested him for driving under the influence. To Delacruz, the cause of his deportation isn't his status as an illegal immigrant or drinking and driving. It's racism. "Why do they imagine these things about us?" he said with a sigh. "I'm leaving with what I came with. I'm not thinking about coming back. You're too far from the people you love." That's the sentiment of the case he'll make, which carries no legal weight, at the civil proceeding. He recalls leaving his wife at the airport in Peru five years ago, promising her he'd return with more money than he left with. She bawled, and even reconsidered letting him go. He's protesting his deportation, he said, because he still has debts here and feels ashamed that he won't be able to pay it back. If he wins his appeal, he says, he'll be back to pay up. Chances of that happening are slim. It's unclear what happens to the immigrants once they reach their seats inside the airplane. The charter plane, unlike the bus, looks on the inside like a typical airliner. As the Marshals finish packing plastic garbage bags containing their livelihoods - a book, an extra pair of clothes, a cowboy hat, court papers - into the undercarriage, something shuts off. The men lose their smiles. The laughter, both contrived for each other and authentic, halts. The men, all with closely cropped black hair, stare forward at the seat ahead. As Marshals retract the stairwell, the cabin permeates with only the calm hum of the engines.
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